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Putting this 1.2/1.4 mpd and rounding issue to bed

A common objection I get when I recommend UOB cards for miles earning is that these banks round your transaction down to the nearest $5, so a $9.99 transaction earns the same amount of miles as a $5 transaction ($5 @ 1.4 mpd with the UOB PRVI Miles).

Other banks, like Citibank/HSBC, award miles to the nearest $1, so that same $9.99 transaction would earn you 10.8 miles ($9 @ 1.2 mpd.

But the key question you need to ask yourself is this- what is my average/median transaction size? This determines whether or not the enhanced miles earning of a UOB PRVI Miles card (1.4 mpd) can make up for the rounding down effect.

How big a problem is rounding?

Here’s a simple table showing how you end up with transactions ranging from $4.99 to $99.99, comparing a hypothetical 1.2 mpd arrangement (Citibank Premiermiles Visa) with a 1.4 mpd arrangement (UOB PRVI Miles)

Red= you lose out with a the 1.4 mpd, rounding down card. Calculations for 1.4 mpd based on transactions rounded down to the nearest $5, calculations for 1.2 mpd based on transactions rounded down to the nearest $1

What you can see is that once your transaction goes above ~$30, the incremental 0.2 miles you earn with UOB offsets the rounding down effect. The gap only grows bigger the larger the transaction is.

Or fine, let’s take the Citibank Premiermiles AMEX (1.3 mpd) instead and see what happens.

Red= you lose out with a the 1.4 mpd, rounding down card. Calculations for 1.4 mpd based on transactions rounded down to the nearest $5, calculations for 1.2 mpd based on transactions rounded down to the nearest $1

Now, as expected, the “sweet spot” moves upwards in that transactions of ~$55 or above favor the UOB card.

My median transaction size is just under $30, but my average is $270 (it’s skewed because of large business expenses). So although 50% of my transactions are under $30 (and I’m losing out on some miles due to rounding there), I’m still winning overall by using a card like the PRVI because the marginal 0.2 mpd is being earned on some significantly large transactions. 

What you need to realise is that even if you are using the UOB PRVI and have, say, 30 transactions where you’re losing out on 2-3 miles each time, all it takes is a large single transaction of ~$300-450 to put you in the same position as if you were using a 1.2 mpd, no rounding card. And that’s what most people’s transactions will look like, right? You’ll have maybe 30 small transactions in a period and the occasional big ticket purchase.

I mean, sure, if you really wanted to there’s nothing stopping you from swapping between your Citibank Premiermiles and UOB PRVI, depending on the transaction size. But that’s a step too far, even for me.

Other considerations

Moreover, the mpd rate is no doubt important but there are other things you need to consider as well. If you’re comparing the DBS Altitude cards (1.2 mpd, rounding down to nearest $5- for more details on rounding please see the comments where johnnyboy has some excellent analysis. It’s not exactly as simple as I’m making it sound) to Citibank Premiermiles (1.2 mpd, rounding down to nearest $1) then the Premiermiles card seems to be better, but better here is in the context of miles earning potential.

Think about pooling (Citibank has two different currencies (ThankYou points and Premiermiles) that you can’t pool, which forces you to pay two conversion fees), think about transfer partners (Citibank has so many more transfer partners than DBS), think about card and mile earning promotions (like the one currently happening with the DBS Altitude Visa), think about expiry of miles, and the picture becomes a bit different.

So I’d encourage you to do a serious analysis of your own spending patterns in deciding whether the rounding issue will be a hindrance to you.

Shopback-AMEX free money offer, $50+$50 up for grabs

Christmas comes early-ish as Shopback and AMEX have teamed up to offer $50 cashback and a $50 welcome voucher for any shopback user (sign up using my link and I get $5, you get $10 with first purchase) who successfully signs up for one of the following 4 cards

Once you’ve done your sign up and got your application reference number, send an email to [email protected] with your ShopBack email address and application reference number.

That’s it. You will get $50 credited to your ShopBack account within 60 days. No matter how many AMEX cards you sign up for, you will only get 1x $50 credit and 1x $50 voucher (Fairprice, Starbucks, Tangs, Tung Lok). Read the full T&C here.

All the cards come with the first year annual fee free, so you really have nothing to lose by signing up. I got the AMEX Platinum Card but don’t intend to put a single cent on it (unless, perhaps, I find a way to make the 50% off F&B program work for me).

This promotion was live, then taken down, and now it’s live again. ShopBack reserves the right to pull it at any time, so please chiong. You have 3 days left to do this.

Thanks to Darius for alerting me to this.

Could the AMEX CapitaCard be the worst credit card in Singapore?

The original DBS CapitaCard always holds a special place in my heart given that it was one of my first ever pseudo credit cards. What I mean by this is that it was a debit card, but unlike traditional debit cards, actually gave me some credit card-esque benefits.

As a holder of the DBS CaptiCard debit card, I could earn Capita$, which was sort of like CapitaMall’s internal currency. This could be as high as 15% at certain merchants. I felt so pleased knowing that I was finally getting something back for my spending, even if it was pretty much working like a cashback card with a restricted cashout option (only spendable at CapitaMalls).  Of course, this was before I discovered the wonders of miles…

DBS must have lost the bid/decided not to bid to renew its agreement with CapitaLand Malls because the card was discontinued on 1 Jun 2016 and subsequently relaunched by American Express to much fanfare. 

The new AMEX CapitaCard allows you to earn CapitaStar$ (have I said “Capita” enough in this post yet? I don’t nearly think so) whenever you spend at CapitaMalls or elsewhere.

What are CapitaStar$?

TL;DR version- they replace the old Capita$ system and can be redeemed for CapitaMalls vouchers at the following rates

  • 5,000 CapitaStar$= $5 CapitaMalls voucher
  • 10,000 CapitaStar$= $10 CapitaMalls voucher
  • 50,000 CapitaStar$=$50 CapitaMalls voucher

You earn 5 CapitaStar$ for every S$1 of spending at 15 CapitaMalls in Singapore. Note that Ion Orchard, while a CapitaMall, doesn’t participate in this program. This represents an awe-inspiring 0.5% rebate. Let that sink in for a while. I mean, I rag on cashback cards, but even they give 1.5-3%  rebates.

At the same time, the program has all sorts of ridiculous arbitrary restrictions and rules that don’t make sense, even from CapitaMall’s point of view. For example

  • You must spend at least S$20 in a single receipt to earn CapitaStar$. Why S$20? Because arbitrary.
  • You can only earn a maximum of 5,000 CapitaStar$ in a day, i.e a maximum spend of S$1,000. So if you buy an expensive laptop at Best Denki you’ll hit the cap. I don’t understand why there needs to be cap- don’t you want to reward your biggest spenders or encourage people to make big ticket purchases from your tenants? And before someone says “yeah but they’re hoping people don’t realise it till it’s too late”, I’ll say that hell hath no fury like that of a customer denied points.
  • You need to physically go to a customer service booth or a self-service station in the mall to scan your receipts and claim your CapitaStar$. The cynic in me thinks they don’t allow you to claim your points by giving your phone number at the register or scanning some sort of plastic card because they’re anticipating some people will forget/be in a rush, thereby missing out on their points. If I forget to claim my points today, can I claim them later? Ha! T&C say all points must be claimed by the end of the next day. Good luck if you were shopping on a Sunday and can’t head down on Monday. From an IT implementation point of view there’s no reason why they can’t be more generous with the timelines. (EDIT: Ok, apparently you can scan the receipts using a mobile app)
  • Regardless of when your CapitaStar$ are earned, they all expire in June of the following year. So 1 CapitaStar$ earned on 1 Jan 2016 and 1 CapitaStar$ earned on 31 Dec 2016 both expire on 30 June 2017.
  • Why does the redemption ratio of CapitaStar$ to CapitaMalls voucher value remain constant? 5,000 CapitaStar$ gets you a $5 voucher and 50,000 gets you a $50 voucher. Given that when you pay with a CapitaMalls voucher you don’t get change for the unutilized portion, isn’t small denominations the best? Who then would accumulate their points and wait to hit the 50,000 mark before cashing out? As CapitaMalls, isn’t it to your advantage the longer people don’t cashout, so shouldn’t you give them some incentive eg 40,000 CapitaStar$= $50 voucher to hold their points a bit longer (and sneakily hope that some of them expire?)

Or, as a rather virile friend of mine once said, “more rules than my girlfriend’s dad”

The AMEX CapitaCard value proposition

Sorry, a bit of a tangent there but understanding the Capita$ system is important to understanding whether the AMEX CapitaCard is worth it.

The key features of the card are given below

I don’t really consider “automatic crediting of STAR$ to your CapitaStar$ account to be a benefit”, although the current CapitaStars$ seems to be deliberately mafan. So let’s look at the other 2 cited benefits

How fast does it earn Capita$?

The AMEX CapitaCard earns Capita$ at the following rate

  • Non-CapitaMalls spend- S$1= 5 Capita$
  • CapitaMalls- S$1= 15 Capita$ (capped at S$1,200 per month)

Spending at non-CapitaMalls gives you a 0.5% rebate. That’s just appallingly bad. In fact ,the “true value” of the rebate is less than 0.5% because unlike a traditional cashback card where you can apply that cashback to spend anywhere, this 0.5% can only be used at CapitaMalls.

Spending at CapitaMalls gives you a 1.5% rebate.  Again, the arbitrary rulemaking of AMEX/CapitaMalls comes into play here. Why does there need to be a S$1,200 cap each month? Caps make sense when the rebate amount is not sustainable (eg the 4 miles per S$1 on the DBS Woman’s World card capped at S$2,000 spend each month), but are you telling me that AMEX feels a 1.5% rebate, on a limited subset of spend, is not sustainable? Their True Cashback Card gives 1.5% cashback on all spend, without any cap, on spending everywhere, at a similar annual fee to the CapitaMalls card (we’ll get to that in a while)

Note: I’m not sure why the good folks at HWZ call the rebate 2.0% instead of 1.5% at CapitaMalls. I can only assume that they’re saying you can earn points on the CapitaMalls card and then physically scan the receipts to get another 0.5% as a regular Capita$ member. I’m surprised this is allowed, but no one’s challenging them on that point so I suppose it’s been done. Still, 2% isn’t anywhere near good enough.

But what about that free parking?

Yeah, the free parking is a commonly trumpeted benefit of the card. I get it- parking in Singapore is expensive. But this benefit only applies to a small subsegment of people- those who not only own a car, but visit CapitaMalls sufficiently to get the most bang for their buck.

When you put S$1,200 of spend on this card (can be spend from anywhere, not just CapitaMalls), you get 3 hours of free parking per day at participating CapitaMalls, which is pretty much all of them except Ion. Just your luck that one of the best located malls doesn’t offer free parking eh? It’s almost like they planed it that way…

Of course this can make sense in some limited cases.  Suppose you worked in Raffles City, for example where parking is S$2.20 an hour. Suppose you drove to work every day, five days a week.

Raffles City parking charges

That’s a value of S$2.20 *3 *5= S$33 a week, or S$132 a month. S$132 of value for S$1,200 of spending doesn’t sound half bad on paper for this particular individual (of course, if you worked 9am-6.30pm at Raffles City and drove every day you’d be paying S$456 on parking per month, which might not be the best use of your money but to each his or her own…)

Sure, you could say that you might drive to town on the weekends and use the CapitaMall as a base to explore other places, and that would increase your rebate % a bit more, but I’m not sold on this benefit still (car owners, tell me if you feel differently).

I’m not going to bother replicating this calculation for all the CapitaMalls because Raffles City is likely to be the carpark with the highest parking rates (the majority of the other CapitaMalls are in the heartlands) anyway, so we’ve looked at a best case scenario already.

Note that this benefit kicks in 2 months after, so if I spend in Jan I’ll get free parking in March.

All this for an annual fee of S$171.20!

And if all that weren’t enough, this is the deal killer for me. I’ve often said that an annual fee makes no sense on a cashback/rebates card, and the same issue comes up here. After the first year fee waiver, you pay S$171.20 for the distinct privilege of being a card member.

In other words, you would need to spend

  • S$34,240 at non-Capitamalls
  • S$11,413 at Capitamalls

just to put yourself in a non-loss making position. That is ridiculous.

Given that a realistic scenario is that you’ll spend at least some of this at Capitamalls your amount will fall somewhere inbetween. But think about how much better all that would be if you put it on a card like the DBS Altitude or the UOB PRVI Miles? At 1.4 miles per S$1, you’d be looking at between 16,000 and 48,000 miles. I know which one I’m going for…

So why did I just bother reading all this?

There is a potential sock drawer card opportunity here. AMEX is running a sign up bonus where you earn 20,000 Capita$ after getting the card and making your first transaction of minimum S$1. That’s getting a $20 voucher for next to nothing.

Get your spouse to sign up for this card and the two of you can take your $40 to have a nice dinner. 5 minutes of work for that? Yeah, I might bite. But be sure to cancel it before the annual fee becomes due in year 2.

If you for whatever reason want to put a bit more spend on the card you can get a $50 voucher for $888 of spend within 6 months of getting the card. That’s an ok deal, although I’d rather put that spending elsewhere.


1.5% rebate for what amounts to a captive currency is not attractive at all. The free parking might work for a very limited subset of people, but that’s for S$1,200 spend each month or S$14,440 spend a year. At 1.4 miles per S$1, you would have enough to take a short holiday somewhere.

Sidenote: What happens if the merchant within the CapitaMall doesn’t take AMEX? I guess you’re out of luck then.

And please give an Effie to whoever dreamed up the tagline “Smart shoppers don’t count the stars, they make the stars count” because that is simply the best marketing line I’ve read today.

Could the CapitaMalls AMEX be among the worst cards in Singapore? Well