Terrible Twos: What now for family travel?

Goodbye 10% infant fares, and hello...what exactly?

At some point, every child reaches the age that parents fear. 

No, not puberty. I’m talking about the Terrible Twos, when the powers that be decide that a child is too large for lap-sitting, and require them to have their own seat (whether they want it or not).

I’ve always marvelled at how arbitrary the two-year mark is — why not three? —  though I suppose you’d ultimately have to pick some age as the cut-off point, since basing it on height or weight restrictions would be too difficult to enforce in real life.

Well, that day has now come for me, as the MileCub has just turned two (and I’ve been reliably informed that from here on out, parenting becomes a complete and utter cakewalk!).

On the one hand, she now occupies her own seat, giving The MileLioness and I a lot more personal space, and relieving us of the impossible task of trying to comply with international aviation laws by strapping a squirming toddler to your torso.

All hail the ultimate parenting device

On the other hand, she now occupies her own seat, which changes the dynamic of family travel completely.

How does ticket pricing change from infants to children?

The general rule is that an infant (defined as a child under the age of 2) pays 10% of the lowest available adult fare class.

✈️ Example: One-way Economy Class ticket from SIN to KUL
  Adult Infant
Fare S$132 S$13.20
Airport Taxes S$65.20
Total S$197.20 S$13.20
Note: Infants who do not occupy a seat are not required to pay airport taxes

But that’s not always the case. Sometimes it’s better, like in Japan or the USA, where lap infants fly for free on domestic flights with most major carriers. Sometimes it’s worse, like Cathay Pacific flights to and from the USA where a lap infant costs 25% of the adult fare. And sometimes, it makes no sense at all, like with Scoot and other regional budget carriers where it can be cheaper to buy a separate seat than pay the lap fee!

While the 10% rule usually applies to commercial tickets only, some mileage programmes also allow members to redeem infant tickets at just 10% of the adult mileage, or even a flat fee (which can save First Class-flying parents quite a bit).

The best (and worst) award programmes for booking infant tickets

But everything changes at two. Once your child starts occupying a separate seat, the opportunity cost to the airline is much higher. And while there are discounted child fares, it’s not anywhere as cheap as 10%.

For example, the child fare on a Singapore Airlines round-trip Economy Class fare to Sydney is about 80% of the adult fare, and unlike infants, you’ll usually (but not always) pay the same airport and government taxes.

SIN-SYD, Economy Class for 1 adult & 1 child

Business Class? Don’t even think about it. While the discount is slightly larger (you pay 75% of the adult fare), it’s still a lot of money in absolute terms. 

SIN-SYD, Business Class for 1 adult & 1 child

And as for First Class, there isn’t even a discount to speak of!

SIN-SYD, First Class for 1 adult & 1 child

What about redeeming miles? Not an option either— for KrisFlyer and almost every other mileage programme I can think of, once a child occupies their own seat, they pay the full number of miles. 

👍 Exceptions

While most frequent flyer programmes charge the same number of miles for adults as for children, there are two exceptions I know of:

  • Air France-KLM Flying Blue: 25% discount for award tickets for children (aged 2-11) on Air France-KLM operated flights only
  • TAP Miles&Go: 25% discount for award tickets for children (aged 2-11) on TAP Portugal operated flights only

Unfortunately, TAP Miles&Go is not a transfer partner in Singapore, and Flying Blue is limited to Citi, HSBC and OCBC

All this to say, you’ll have some tricky decisions to make, and the way I see it there’s four options. 

Option 1: Fly everyone in Business Class

I suspect this will be somewhat wasted on a 3-year old

The ideal scenario, of course, is to fly everyone in Business Class. But since award tickets don’t offer child discounts, and commercial fares for children are only marginally cheaper, you and your spouse basically need to pay the equivalent of three adult fares if you go down this route.

I don’t know about you, but I can’t justify buying (or redeeming) a Business Class seat for a 2-year old child, who will probably want to spend more time sitting in your seat than their own. They don’t need a big bed, they won’t appreciate the food, and their alcohol tolerance is somewhat lacking.

In short, this would only be a realistic option if money (or miles) were no object.

❓What about safety?

Someone raised a good point over on Telegram about safety. Modern Business Class seats are designed to be almost completely enclosed for privacy, and even if there’s a divider you can lower to keep an eye on your kids, it’s not easy to rush over to intervene should they put themselves in danger. 

Singapore Airlines 2013J (found on the A350-900LH and B777-300ER) is a great example of this. If your kid were to sit all the way back, chances are they’d be invisible because the shell of the seat covers them completely. It’s not so bad on the 2017J (A380-800), where both the centre seats are practically side-by-side with the divider lowered. 

Come to think of it, the best Business Class seats Singapore Airlines had to offer for parents were the angled flat ones on the A330!

Option 2: Fly everyone in Economy Class

All in this together!

The second option is to teach your children the value of family togetherness, and fly everyone in Economy.

In this case, your pain threshold is really the limit of where you can go. For me, I’ve reached the age where I’d rather stay home than fly long-haul Economy to Europe, New Zealand or the USA. I’d say my current limit is probably five hours, but the good news is there’s plenty of family-friendly places within that radius (Perth, for one).

If your back is in better condition than mine, great. But as a warning to new parents: long-haul solo Economy travel is a very different beast from long-haul Economy travel with a toddler.

Option 3: Split the family

But some are more equal than others

The third option is to divide and conquer. Your wife and kid sit in Economy while you sit in Business, sip champagne, and contemplate your impending sexless life. The advantage of this approach, however, is that it would allow you to travel further on trips where the partner with the lower pain tolerance gets the Business seat.

In the long run, the goal would be to reach the stage where the kids can manage themselves without imposing on those around them (remember, flight attendants aren’t meant to be babysitters). At that point, the parents can fly upfront, with the kids behind. 

Personally, I was quite fond of that arrangement growing up because no parental supervision meant unlimited soft drinks and all the Nintendo games I wanted (back when Singapore Airlines offered them, sigh).

Option 4: Don’t fly?

Most cruise liners offer kids’ clubs

But who says flying has to be the only option?

If you don’t want to splurge on Business, yet don’t relish the idea of long-haul Economy, then these few years might be a great time to get into cruising, where everyone can travel together in relative comfort.

There are a lot of cruise liners with great programming for kids, and as an added bonus, it also relieves you of the burden of having to plan things. I’m mighty tempted to explore more of this in the future.

Conclusion

With the MileCub turning two, the MileLioness and I will have to rethink some of our travel plans.

It’s one thing to pay a token 10% fare for her to share a seat with us, but I’m not about to pay the miles or cash for Business Class (let alone First) for someone who isn’t going to appreciate the finer points of champagne.

So this might be a season to explore regional travel and cruises, and if you have any recommendations I’d be glad to hear them.

Parents: How did your travel patterns change after the kids turned 2?

Aaron Wong
Aaron Wong
Aaron founded The Milelion to help people travel better for less and impress chiobu. He was 50% successful.

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Mike

We usually just redeem business tickets for all 3 of us on trips to Europe and Australia. They key is to book early, and earn/buy as many miles as you can and then typically it’s just enough so you don’t have to consider buying business or squeeze into economy. We’ve done 6-7 trips and never had to buy business so far.

Clems

I think the point Aaron is making is that it is not worth it to redeem business class for the little one.

PeeWeeDee

That’s because he cant afford it.

Kenji

Switch to economy for everyone. You have plenty of travel options including Perth, Taiwan, China, and if you want to extend a little, Japan – 6 hrs. Meantime, earn miles and… If you fly enough… kf gold ??
It’s not as bad since they will be sleeping for 2 hrs on flight anyway (always prayed it happens)…
Just a 2 year hatius.. then you can switch back to biz when they are 4.

anon

He cannot sleep on economy lol

WasteOfMiles

Thanks to milelion, i have more miles than i have time so i fly em all in biz.

Captain W

I am fully agreed. Since time is painfully more expensive than miles at this point.

Pegasus

South East Asia Region will be your best friend for the next 5 years or so. Long hauls are still good with A380. Explore the Middle East. Split long hauls into stop over when long holiday helps too.

Sarget

For Europe typically 1adult 1child in biz and 1adult 1child in prem econ. Then swap on the way back so it’s fair for everyone…

Captain W

Except for flight tickets, your entire travel cost won’t increase significantly since most hotels accommodate three people in the same room, especially suites.

Wait until you have another child. That’s when the real challenge begins, as it will double everything, and you’ll face additional headaches trying to find connecting rooms or suites.

My recommendation is to stick with one child since even high-earners can’t comfortably afford luxury travel (business class plus hotel suite combo) with two children.

Really

Not having another child so that we can travel business class and save on hotels. Does anyone else find this a little… misplaced?

Actually HNWI’s can comfortably afford luxury travel with 2 children. HENRY’s OTOH…

LMm

If only I’d read this advice before deciding to have 2 kids. I wouldn’t need to stick to airbnb apartments in Tokyo, Shanghai and Colombo. Goshdarnit.

Seriously- if it’s expensive to travel with 4 but not 3, you’re not high earning yet.

Major

Wished your parents flew first class so they would have no kids.

Privacy and cutting edge J is worse for young kids

Redeem econ ex-sin and pay cash for one way business back. Or look for cheaper cash fares on carriers like Turkish for Europe. 3 across in J won’t win any airline awards but is perfect for containing the chaos 😉

Undecided

While I could afford J, we flew Y with the kids as that’s how wanted them to grow up (which was how I grew up).

Family of 5

When my daughter asked how she could put the economy seat into a bed I realised we had a problem, so we started to take this approach too!

Undecided

👍 I found that for longer trips…Asia to Europe for example, breaking it up in Dubai and overnighting…checking out Dubai Mall, etc… made the Y experience much easier.

JW19

I respectfully disagree that the 2 yr old or more doesn’t need a bed. My kid will never sleep unless she gets to lie or daddy or mummy’s lap and in Y that means my wife and I can’t even get to the toilet without waking the little monster up. I am much more efficient now in getting best deals that are not direct from Singapore or third city bookings. Lucky for us KUL and CGK usually has very good J fares, case in point I flew SYD on SQ J for MYR 7.5k per person KUL-SIN-SYD return while premium… Read more »

Shane

Another point to add, apparently you are not allowed to just buy 1 child seat in business class in cash (at least SIA support said I could not). This meant you have no option to redeem 2 adult with miles and buy 1 child with cash. Unsure if there are hacks around this.

Alian

Kids won’t have memories of their 2nd or 3rd year so really is there any value in taking kids under 5 unless it’s family commitments like visiting overseas relatives and family. Understand parents want a holiday and break and can’t leave the child in the drawer but a short trip makes more sense over a long haul which makes everyone miserable. I just don’t understand but that just me. I only started taking my kid overseas when she was nearly 6 and she totally enjoyed it and still remembers. Regarding flying class. Short and medium haul was Y all the… Read more »

Alan

I respectfully disagree. Just because a kid won’t remember something when they grow up doesn’t mean that something isn’t worth doing. Yes, they might not remember the trips they’ve been on, in the same way as they won’t remember the books you’ve read to them before bedtime, the funny faces/sounds you made to make them laugh, the bubbles that you’ve blown and that they chased after to pop, the times that you pushed on on a swing in the playground, the mohawk that you sculpt with their hair when they are in the bath. None of them is necessary, but… Read more »

Andy

Surely option 5: Parents in business and kid + helper in economy? Put the helper in the cheapest hotel room you can find at your destination and then you have a babysitter on call for your holiday! Win win (assuming no visa issues)

Yes

i need advice for dealing with the primary school holiday calendar. Mile redemption is just impossible.

Nick

I have a 2 and 4 year old. We all fly economy now mainly to Asia region (within 6 hours radius). The good news is that “this too will pass”. With the 4 year old, we can already see ourselves going a little further (possibly in biz)

anon

economy is easy. my parents and i flew back when economy was less comfortable than today.

business class VC

Use Gen AI in the milelion, raise 10m for Series A, spend 1m for your new vertical audience; “child friendly routes”.

If you tokenise something, you can raise another 10m from crypto bros. A milecub NFT should make millions.

Family of 5

The 2 year old thing sucks – we did two massive trips in first class just before our first born turned 2 as we’d figured it would be our last opportunity for a while (and was until this year). Amusingly when we turned up to the Etihad desk in LHR with the two kids (one in the pram, just a few months old and the other nearly 2), they automatically directed us to the economy queue and then were deeply apologetic when we informed them we were indeed flying first… we had lots of personal service through the airport after… Read more »

Anon

Actually with SQ, one of the few airlines where having status makes the Y bearable with the family. I have a 5 yo and 2 yo and TPP + supplementary for my wife means we can all go to the lounge together, and generally the crew onboard takes extra care to look after us when they know we got young kids in toe. But I recently did a long haul and I booked 3 JCL seats + 2 year old bassinet (he was 1.9 years at that time) and this worked well. The 5 yo is big enough to start… Read more »

Zaos

You two can fly in suites while the kids are enjoying just as much in Y.

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