Well this isโฆinteresting. One of the common gripes in the miles game is that you can accumulate all the miles you like, but youโre ultimately still at the mercy of the airline to release award seats. How many people with six or seven digit mileage balances have stared helplessly at the flight availability page with a sense of impotency?
As you know, Asia Miles underwent a devaluation recently which saw economy awards getting cheaper or staying the same while business and first class award prices increased.
The carrot they threw to customers in return was a supposed 20% increase in redemption seats on Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon flights. I say โsupposedโ not because I think theyโre up to no good or anything, but just that itโs impossible for those of us on this side of the fence to accurately account for the increase.
In whatโs probably a nod to this move, Asia Miles is organizing two exclusive chartered flights between HKG and KIX (thatโs Osaka, for the uninitiated) using a 2-cabin A330 aircraft.
The gimmick? Every single seat on this flight will be available for redemption at Standard award rates. You couldnโt buy a seat with cash if you wanted to.
Hereโs the schedule for these two flights:
- HKG-KIX: 30 Aug 2018, CX 8538, 0935 depart 1425 arrive
- KIX-HKG: 3 Sept 2018, CX 8541, 1700 depart 2000 arrive
What cabin product will be available?
Cathay has two different A330 configurations. The first has 39 Business and 223 Economy seats, and Business Class is in a 1-2-1 full flat configuration.
Iโve flown on one of these aircraft before and found the seat comfortable enough, if a bit old.

The second configuration has 24 Business and 293 Economy seats, and Business Class is 2-2-2 recliners.
This is understandably the more ho-hum plane, although with a flight time of 3h 50 mins itโs not like youโd have a lot of time to snooze either. Iโm guessing the Asia Miles PR team will be out in force to document this flight, and the all-recliner configuration does make for easier photos than the 1-2-1 layout.

That said, as per KVS a 1-2-1 configured plane has been blocked to operate this flight. This is subject to last minute changes, of course, but for now everything looks good (want to know how to use KVS and get cool insights like below? Check out our upcoming Power Award Search class!)
How many miles will it cost?
I couldnโt find this flight through Avios, so Iโm assuming that itโs only bookable through Asia Miles. Thatโs kind of duh, if you think about it. The mileage requirements for these special flights are the same as regular awards between Hong Kong and Osaka.

In addition to the miles, youโll pay HKD538 of taxes (S$93) in total for a round-trip.
Whatโs interesting is that these flights are also available for connections- that is, if youโre departing from Singapore, you can still connect onto this flight, as shown below. The total cost for a round trip Business Class Standard award will be 90,000 miles and HKD1,480 (S$256) of taxes.
Keep in mind, a round-trip non-stop Business Saver award from SIN-KIX on SQ would cost 86,000 KrisFlyer miles, so thatโs probably the better option here. Whatโs more, SIN-KIX is served by the new 787-10 aircraft with SQโs 2017 regional business class product.
Conclusion
The flightโs a publicity stunt, for sure, but I guess itโs harmless in the grand scheme of things. Whatโs a bit more concerning is that Lucky from OMAAT has pointed out that Cathay Pacific long haul business class awards have disappeared both from partner searches and Asia Miles. Whether thatโs a glitch or design remains to be seen.
Anyone fancy a punt on this?
View from the wing (16 jul entry) solved the missing cathay award seats. Gotta ask CSO to hold a married segment, call again to another CSO to drop the last segment.
SIN-KIX is 86,000KF miles on SQ Saver RT.
I must be going blind. Fixed!
@ JY: no, the real issue has NOT been resolved at all. The real issue is lack of availability on many routes even for Asia Miles members. It has gotten much worse in the last 9 (not just 2/3 months), at least on HKG-Europe where I used to redeem a lot of J flights. Nowadays availability is nothing, nada. The workaround only works if there actually is award availability (and for many programs thereโs a fee involved in dropping a segment, I think Asia Miles would charge USD 125).
I see a few HKG-EUR J redemptions available over the next couple of weeks. havenโt looked further out. CX is definitely applying married segment logic though, at least for non AM members.
Thanks, interesting. I (like most people) cannot book trip with just a few days/ weeks notice (and Monday/ Tuesday departure isnโt ideal for scheduling reasons). The problem is that there used to be much better availability, at least to FRA/ ZRH/ DUS/ AMS and nowadays very little.