HSBC Revolution: Keep or cancel?

The HSBC Revolution has had a dismal 2024 so far, and some cardholders are glancing at the exit. Should you join them?

 

โš ๏ธ A major update to this story, as HSBC has announced that the Revolution will nerf 4 mpd for contactless payments from 15 July 2024, and travel-related transactions from 1 January 2025. 

Read more here.

It’s safe to say that 2024 has not been a great year for the HSBC Revolution so far. 

In January, HSBC axed bonuses for Airbnb, Klook, Pelago and many other travel agencies and hotels. This was followed by a second cull in May, where bonuses for groceries, food delivery and fast food were nerfed too. The extra 1% cashback from the Everyday Global Account was discontinued, and even though points pooling finally rolled out, the overall trajectory is undeniably downwards.

That’s led some to ask a question that would have been inconceivable this time last year: is it time to say goodbye to the HSBC Revolution?

Arguments for cancelling the HSBC Revolution

Key MCCs have been removed from the bonus whitelist

Since the start of 2024, the following MCCs have been removed from the HSBC Revolution’s bonus whitelist.

MCC Examples
MCC 4722
Travel Agencies
Agoda, Expedia, Hotels.com, Klook, Pelago, Trip.com
MCC 5411
Supermarkets
Cold Storage, Giant, Little Farms, NTUC FairPrice, Sheng Siong
MCC 5499
Misc. Food Stores
7-Eleven, Crave, Cheers, Hockhua Tonic, iHerb, Nespresso
MCC 5814
Fast Food
Burger King, KFC, McDonald’s, Starbucks, Subway
MCC 7011
Lodging Not Elsewhere Classified
Airbnb, Millennium Hotels & Resorts, Pan Pacific Hotels

The HSBC Revolution no longer earns bonuses for supermarkets, fast food, travel agencies, or most hotels. And since food delivery platforms like Deliveroo, Food Panda and GrabFood can sometimes code as fast food, that makes it a risky card to use here too. 

Moreover, even though MCC 3500-3999 (the hotels MCC range) remains on the whitelist, there are many properties which code under MCC 7011. Just because a hotel’s brand can be found in the MCC 3500-3999 range is no guarantee that an individual property will code in the same manner. For example, Westin hotels uses MCC 3513, but the Westin Kuala Lumpur codes as MCC 7011. This means it’s risky to use the HSBC Revolution for any sort of hotel transaction, unless you’re willing to test the MCC first.

Reset your new-to-bank status

SingSaver periodically offers excellent welcome gifts for HSBC cards like Apple iPads and Dyson gadgets, but you have to be a new-to-bank customer to take advantage of it.

If the HSBC Revolution is your last HSBC card, then you might be tempted to cancel it, if only to start the 12-month “reset clock”. Of course, you’ll need to weigh the value of the welcome gift against the opportunity cost of foregone miles from the HSBC Revolution- assuming you would have used it in the first place. 

โš ๏ธ HSBC’s new-to-bank definition

Do note that HSBC views the Revolution/Visa Platinum/Advance and TravelOne as two separate “types” of cards, so having a Revolution does not disqualify you from the new-to-bank bonus on the TravelOne (and vice versa).

Read this article for the full explanation. 

Your spending doesn’t bust the bonus caps of blacklist cards 

If your monthly expenditure doesn’t regularly exceed S$4,000, there’s no reason why you can’t cover most if not all of it with the various blacklist cards on the market, namely the Citi Rewards, DBS Woman’s World Card, UOB Preferred Platinum Visa and UOB Visa Signature.

๐Ÿ’ณ Blacklist Cards
Card Earn Rate Remarks
Citi Rewards Card
Apply
4 mpd For online trxns. Max S$1K per s. month
DBS WWMC
Apply
4 mpd For online trxns. Max S$1.5K per c. month 
UOB Pref. Plat. Visa
Apply
4 mpd For mobile contactless. Max S$1.1K per c. month
UOB Visa Signature 
Apply
4 mpd For contactless. Min. S$1K Max S$2K per s. month

These cards award bonuses by transaction medium (e.g. online, contactless) rather than specific MCCs, so if anything this makes life easier because there’s less to remember.

There’s no more extra 1% with the EGA

HSBC Revolution cardholders could previously earn an extra 1% cashback on top of their 4 mpd with the Everyday Global Account (EGA), capped at S$300 (Personal banking) or S$500 (Premier/Jade) per calendar month.

However, this was nerfed in May 2024, when the 1% cashback on card spending became limited to the HSBC Everyday Global Debit Card only.

Arguments for keeping the HSBC Revolution

There’s no annual fee

Ever since August 2020, the HSBC Revolution no longer has an annual fee, making it the only HSBC card with such a feature (the HSBC Premier Mastercard has no annual fee either, but you need to be a HSBC Premier customer to qualify).

Despite this, you still enjoy an ENTERTAINER with HSBC membership, which offers more than 1,000 1-for-1 deals on dining, attractions and travel. If that’s what you’re after, the Revolution is a no-cost way of getting it. 

There’s still a decent number of bonus categories

While the HSBC Revolution’s bonus whitelist is nowhere as big as it was in 2023, it still offers 4 mpd on air tickets, car rental, cruises, ridehailing, e-commerce websites, restaurants and gym memberships.

โœ… HSBC Revolution Bonus Whitelist
Category MCCs Examples
Airlines, Car Rental, Lodging, Cruise Lines 3000 to 3350, 3351 to 3500, 3501 to 3999, 4411, 4511 Singapore Airlines, Scoot, Cathay Pacific, Emirates
Department Stores & Retail Stores 4816, 5045, 5262, 5309, 5310, 5311, 5331, 5399, 5611, 5621, 5631, 5641, 5651, 5655, 5661, 5691, 5699, 5732 to 5735, 5912, 5942, 5944 to 5949, 5964 to 5970, 5992, 5999 Amazon, Best Denki, Courts, Harvey Norman, Lazada, Qoo10, Shopee, Taobao
Dining 5441, 5462, 5811, 5812, 5813 Crystal Jade, Paradise Dynasty, Hai Di Lao
Transportation & Membership Clubs 4121, 7997 Comfort, Grab, gojek,  TADA, Ryde, Fitness First
Bonuses apply to both SGD & FCY spend

If these are substantial expenditure categories for you and you can’t cover them with a different card, then it might make sense to hold on to your Revolution. 

Your spending busts the bonus caps of blacklist cards 

If you’re a big spender and your monthly spending regularly exceeds the combined caps of the various blacklist cards, then having a HSBC Revolution is a way of soaking up some of the spending and conserving the more flexible blacklist cap. 

For example, if you have a S$500 Shopee purchase, you can put that on the HSBC Revolution instead of the DBS Woman’s World Card, preserving the latter’s 4 mpd cap of S$1,500 per month for other transactions that don’t fall on any whitelist.

You want to take advantage of HSBC’s new transfer partners

HSBC cards now pool points, so all cardholders can access the 21 airline and hotel partners which were formerly TravelOne exclusives. Thanks to the free transfers till 31 January 2025, instant conversions (for all but three programmes), and conversion blocks as small as 2 miles after the first 10,000 miles, HSBC points have suddenly become very valuable.

The problem? You can’t earn them very quickly with most HSBC cards. For instance, the HSBC TravelOne Card earns 3 points per S$1 on local spend, and 6 points per S$1 on FCY spend. That works out to 1.2/2.4 mpd, but only if you choose a transfer partner with a 25,000 points = 10,000 miles transfer ratio. Some partners go as high as 50,000 points = 10,000 miles!

HSBC TravelOne Partners
โœˆ๏ธ HSBC TravelOne Airline Partners
Frequent Flyer Programme Conversion Ratio
(HSBC : Partner)
50,000 : 10,000
40,000 : 10,000
35,000 : 10,000
35,000 : 10,000
35,000 : 10,000
35,000 : 10,000
35,000 : 10,000
30,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
asia miles logo 25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
krisflyer logo 25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000
๐Ÿจ HSBC TravelOne Hotel Partners
Hotel Programme Conversion Ratio
(HSBC : Partner)
30,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 5,000
25,000 : 10,000
25,000 : 10,000

To make matters worse, HSBC blocks CardUp and ipaymy from earning rewards, and does not offer a tax payment facility of its own.

Therefore, the only way to “turbocharge” your HSBC points accumulation is with the HSBC Revolution, which offers up to 120,000 HSBC Points a year from spending S$1,000 per month (an earn rate of 2-4 mpd, depending on partner).

Transfer Ratio
(Points : Miles)
HSBC T1
(Local)*
HSBC T1
(FCY)^
HSBC Revo
(Bonus)#
25,000 : 10,000 1.2 mpd 2.4 mpd 4 mpd
30,000 : 10,000 1 mpd 2 mpd 3.33 mpd
35,000 : 10,000 0.86 mpd 1.71 mpd 2.86 mpd
40,000 : 10,000 0.75 mpd 1.5 mpd 2.5 mpd
50,000 : 10,000 0.6 mpd 1.2 mpd 2 mpd
*3 points per S$1 on local spend
^6 points per S$1 on FCY spend
#10 points per S$1 on bonus categories

Conclusion

The HSBC Revolution’s less-than-stellar 2024 has led some to consider cancelling the card, and if you already have other 4 mpd options to plug the gaps, then I could certainly see the case for resetting your new-to-bank status.

However, if you’re a bigger spender who regularly busts the caps on blacklist cards, then the HSBC Revolution could still be a useful sponge, and it’s hard to deny the appeal of HSBC points now that so many partners are on offer (though unfortunately not all at great rates). 

I haven’t decided what to do with my card yet. I like the “exotic” transfer partners that HSBC opens up, though I’m finding it more difficult to integrate the Revolution in my day-to-day spending routines (since I have to keep reminding myself I can’t use it at the supermarket, for food delivery etc.). Besides, I’m still sitting on a pile of points I’m not quite ready to cash out- and I’ll need to cash them out if I cancel my card, or else lose them.

HSBC Revolution Cardholders- what will you be doing with your card?

Aaron Wong
Aaron Wong
Aaron founded The Milelion to help people travel better for less and impress chiobu. He was 50% successful.

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damonz

This is not directly relevant to revolution, but T1 cardholders beware that HSBC has different cancellation processes for some reason: 1. You cannot just call to cancel the card, pay off the balance and waive the fee 2. You need to pay off the balance, wait for the payment to be reflected in their system 3. You need to the apply and seek bank’s approval for the fee waiver even though you are canceling (do not agree to that verbally) I am still in the middle of dealing with this after 3 days, hope anyone who plans to cancel T1… Read more »

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bent

i will just hang on to it, since there is no hassle of waiving annual fee. Only when my points start to expire, then I will review and see what to do with it. Silly as it may sound, i charge small bakery expenses to this card, since PPV has to hit the $5 spending blocks. And bakery expenses each time for me usually fall in the $7-9 range for me.

Laughing (but not at you)

This aged well

HSBC RevoRip

Please update us again if you intend to hang on to it after HSBC bombshell just now. LOL

bent

LOL.i will still hang on to it till 31 Jan’25 when there is still free transfers. Can still clock whatever spend on bakery, and some online shopping or Grab (though i actually use WWMC for those now). Honestly primary use would be bakery (small use case) and secondary use if it busts other cards cap.

Will

Which bakery will allow you to scan a QR code or pay online through phone? Or are you content on making said purchases with 0.4mpd back?

Anon

If bakery accepts favepay why not

Kelvin

Can use HSBC Revolution on MCC 8099? Is this whitelist and Contactless? TIA

jzy

do you see 8099 in the whitelist above?

Kelvin

Not on the white nor black list. So I guess it will only earn a basic points and not 4mpd ๐Ÿ˜ข

Slate

Keep, because of no annual fee. My use case is that I’m relocating temporarily, so any card that has no annual fee is a good card and an easy card to keep. Only misc expenses that I cannot run away from are signed to this card going forward.

Mongoose

There are hsbc spies amongst this community!! I worry only that they redefine NTB status during the hiatus year that some of us might take. Anyone willing to gamble on that?

Will

All the more reason to boycott them fully and permanently if that’s the case.

Sam

For travel, how to do online payment moving forward? Bus MRT still need contactless payment