Itโs been a hard couple of months for miles chasers using Cardup. First, DBS modified its T&Cs such thatย payments with the Womanโs World card no longer earned 10X points. Thenย UOB followed suit for its PPV. To my knowledge, there do not exist any 10X earning opportunities for Cardup right now.
In certain situations, however, it can still make sense to use yourย general spending cardsย with Cardup. Cardup levies a fee of 2.6% on all transactions, which means that paying with a general spending 1.4 mpd card like theย UOB PRVI Milesย is the equivalent of buying miles at 1.86 cents each.
Do note, however, that Cardup requires you to have a bona fide transaction before you can use their platform (eg a condo bill, a school fees invoice, a rental agreement) and you canโt use it as a way of generating unlimited miles (for that, consider using theย UOB PRVI Pay featureย which lets you generate unlimited miles at 2 cents each).
Citibank and Cardup are now running a promotion forย Premiermiles (Visa only),ย Prestigeย andย Ultimaย cardholders:
- The first 300 new users with the codeย CITIFIRSTFREEย will enjoy a waiver of all Cardup fees (max transaction: S$5K)
- Existing users and new users after the 300 codes have been exhausted can enjoy a 2.1% promotional Cardup fee with the codeย CITI21
This promotion is valid on eligible payments made up to 31 October 2017. Theย T&C for the promotionย defines eligible payments as the following
- income tax
- rent and rental deposits
- insurance
- school fees
- condo fees
- season parking
I imagine the 300 zero-fee vouchers will be snapped up pretty quickly, and if youโre in the position to use one you definitely should. But is the 2.1% promotional rate worth jumping on?
Hereโs how the math works out for the three different cards
- Citibank PM Visa (1.2 mpd)-ย
1.75 cpmย1.71 cpm - Citibank Prestige (1.3 mpd)-ย
1.62 cpmย1.58 cpm - Citibank Ultima (1.6 mpd)-ย
1.31 cpmย1.29 cpm
*edit: have been reminded that the Cardup fees themselves earn miles, so the calculations get adjusted accordingly
For your reference, here are the different options available for buying miles in Singapore and how much each will cost. 1.31-1.75 cpm seem like decent prices to buy miles, assuming you donโt qualify for any of the other methods listed below.
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(1) The HSBC website says that $1=0.4 miles for tax payment facility, but I have received reports that VI holders have received 1/1.25 mpd as per their relationship bonus
(2) ย The income requirement to get a HSBC Premier MC is $30,000, but you need $200K in deposits to open a HSBC Premier account
(3) OCBC Voyage Option 1 involves paying $488 to get 15,000 Voyage miles. These can be converted to Krisflyer miles at a 1:1 ratio but are technically more valuable than Krisflyer miles as they can also be used to pay for revenue fares at a fixed value per mile.
(4) SQ charges US$40 per 1,000 miles purchased. Price shown here is reflective of current exchange rates. The only way I could justify paying this is if I needed the miles right this minute, as SQ will credit them instantly
Itโs unfortunate that the Citibank Rewards card isnโt covered under this promotion, but we can only hope itโll make an appearance in the future. Such a promotion is definitely a move in the right direction, however, insofar as it implies that banks are starting to see Cardup as a legitimate business partner instead of something to be excluded under their T&C.
For those who are eligible but have not applied for the Citi Prestige. This might be a good time as Citi is running a promo for 29k miles for $20k spent. Assuming I can use the cardup offer to meet the min spent. I can potentially get 80k miles at 1.06 cents.
Hi
Made a mistake in the calculation. It is closer to 1.18 cents . For 80k miles
Annual fee : $535
Cardup fee :$411.36 (based on 20k spent including fee)
Total:$946 .36.
The only problem left is the 20k spent. Maybe i should start paying rent to my wifeโฆ.
Side track question: what are the categories of spending that citi premier miles card excluded for miles earning? I tried to find it online but could not find the information on Citibank website
Thanks thanks
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Epic hahaha
Hi Aaron, Just want to report back. My MCST bill just came today, and I remembered this post and decided to try Cardup. Just for laughs, I tried the CITIFIRSTFREE promo code. Surprised that it still works. Either sign ups from Citibank customers have been really bad for Cardup, or the limited-to-first-300-users clause was simply to motivate people to sign up quickly. Cos, you know, FOMO. Not sure if anyone is still following this post, but I was also offered a $20-off for both referrers and referrees promo code at the end of the process — please feel free to… Read more »
thanks for the update!
I tried this morning with CITIFIRSTFREE for the income tax and it still worked. Guess it was total new for most of the Citi PM and prestige customers.
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Please use the cardup promotion code CELESTEW79. TIA!