Grab recently announced a partnership with Singapore Airlines which allows passengers to book Grab rides to the airport via the SQ app when departing from Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand and the Philippines.
That cross selling opportunity may be great for Grab, but I donโt understand the value add for consumers, insofar as it saves them one or two screen taps opening up the Grab app and entering the airport as the destination (although Grab is offering $10 of GrabPay credit for the first 5,000 customers to use this function).
What did interest me though was the announcement that Grab Rewards points would be redeemable for Krisflyer miles. Iโve been holding off writing about the partnership because the all important conversion rate had not been announced. However, we now know that-
- Points conversions will start on 13 October for Platinum members, before rolling out for all other tiers from 20 October
- The regular conversion rate will be 11,000 GR points= 1,000 Krisflyer miles
- Until 31 October, Grab will be offering a conversion bonus of 11,000 GR points= 2,000 Krisflyer miles for Platinum members, and 12,000 GR points= 2,000 Krisflyer miles for all other tiers
Is it worth it?
Letโs first think about it from the earning side. When you pay with GrabPay, you earn 16 points per $1. This means
- Promotional rate (Platinum): $1 =2.91 miles
- Promotional rate (Regular): $1= 2.67 miles
- Normal Rate (Platinum & Regular)= 1.45 miles
The promotional rates look good, but the above analysis is a bit misleading in the sense that it implicitly assumes youโll be able to chalk up a block of 11,000 points from now till the end of the month.
11,000 points, mind you, is about $690 of Grab spending, so chances are if you havenโt started collecting Grab points by now youโre definitely not going to be able to build a critical mass to take advantage of the promotion. Which means that realistically, youโre looking at 1.45 miles per dollar extra, on top of the miles you earn via your credit card (4 mpd when you use your DBS Womanโs World card, up to S$2K per month).
But you can also think about this on the redemption side, or what you give up if you opt for KF miles over Grab vouchers. A conservative valuation of a mile would be about 2 cents, although you can easily get more than that if you redeem first or business class flights. The valuation of a mile is a very tricky exercise, and Iโd encourage you to have a read of this article.
We know that you can spend your GR points for the following vouchers as a regular member (you can also use GR points for other things, but thatโs just a bad idea):
- $5- 2,200 GR
- $10- 4,200 GR
- $15- 6,000 GR
- $20- 7,400 GR
- $25- 9,000 GR
11,000 GR points would therefore be giving up just under $30 of Grab vouchers, in exchange for 1,000 Krisflyer miles worth about $20 (again, Iโm assuming youโre not able to take advantage of the launch promo- if you can, then Iโd probably go for the miles).
Thatโs a marginal proposition for me, but how you view this depends on how easily you earn miles. If youโre able to generate a healthy amount of miles from your normal credit card spending, flights, hotel bookings etc, youโre less likely to want to give up transportation vouchers for miles. If on the other hand you donโt really spend enough in other categories to earn a lot of miles, this can be a useful top up.
Another point to note: you canโt use Grabโs weekly promotions in conjunction with a Grab voucher. So, in a way, the value of $1 worth of Grab vouchers is slightly less than $1, because you forewent some โfree moneyโ youโd have enjoyed by using the weekly promotion. In that respect, redeeming Krisflyer miles becomes a slightly better proposition.
Summing it up
Say what you will about Grab Rewards, but itโs still more than what Uber is offering. Ever since Uber cut back on the rate you earn SPG points when you ride, Iโve felt less and less inclined to be loyal to that platform.
My main issue with Grab is driver availability, as I always seem to be able to find an Uber ride much more easily than a Grab one (not to mention that Uber tends to be cheaper in my experience, though Iโm sure I could find just as many people who would tell me the opposite). Also, the Grab app on Android has an annoying habit of forcing you to turn on your GPS before you can use it.
If youโre the type who can expense Grab/Uber for work, the rational decision would always be to go for Grab because of the ability to accumulate rewards for personal use. And Iโm probably going to be doing that going forward. I personally wouldnโt go for the miles conversion option because I donโt have enough points for the promotional rate, and the regular rate isnโt compelling enough for me given that I value the opportunity to earn transport vouchers more than miles (since iโm pretty well covered in that area already).
However, if you prefer another avenue to earn miles or are able to take advantage of the launch promotion, this could be a good opportunity for you.
Not bad lah. Add CC earning rate then a ride can go up to 2.85mpd. Not eye popping but blinking nonetheless.
2.85? With a 1.4 mpd card I suppose? But anyway this line of thinking might not be right in that the 11k threshold to cashout makes the equation more binary. If I hit 11k points then yes, I got the equivalent of such and such mpd. But if I dont, then I have nothing. Ok not really nothing, I can still use the GR points for other things. But you get my point
Promotion rate bad but I would rather spend that $690 on the Krisshop. More worth it that way.
A somewhat related question โ what other ways can someone like me without a credit card earn miles?
not bad*
1. Flying a lot with SQ/*A
2. Credit card spend ๐
Without a credit card broโฆ.lol
Uob krisflyer account ๐
Literally take the flight and have a royalty program with the airline you are flying. After all, there are many ways to buy an air ticket without the use of a credit card
And/Or, as the Milelion says, the UOB Krisflyer Debit Card. O.o
I cringed saying that term in my head. *shudders*
Is this already available on grab? Iโm currently silver tier, and I donโt see it within the rewards that I can redeem ๐
โPoints conversions will start on 13 October for Platinum members, before rolling out for all other tiers from 20 Octoberโ
Thanks Matthew!
How many times do I need to ride from Jurong West to Bukit Panjang to have enough miles to fly from Singapore to Manila please? In economy class
Just saw 2000 miles credited to my KF account. Took 3 days to process, including the weekend.