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Infinite Journeys offering double rewards on KrisFlyer/Golden Circle Point conversions

Convert 12 KrisFlyer miles to 2 GC points, use on rooms or F&B vouchers.

Has it been two years already? Apparently so. Two years ago, Singapore Airlines and Shangri-La launched their Infinite Journeys partnership, which provides for mutual recognition of elite status and an opportunity to convert points between the programs.

To mark the occasion, Infinite Journeys is offering what double the usual GC points/KrisFlyer miles when you convert from one currency to the other, so long as the conversion is made by 31 October.

When you convert Regular conversion Bonus conversion
KrisFlyer miles to GC Award Points (minimum 20,000 miles) 12 miles to 1 point 12 miles to 2 points
GC Award Points to KrisFlyer miles (minimum 1,000 points) 1 point to 1.25 miles 1 point to 2.5 miles

1 KrisFlyer mile can generally be valued at 2 Singapore cents, while 1 GC Point is worth at least 13.8 Singapore cents (1,000 GC points get you a US$100 F&B or spa voucher)

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I constantly make the point at our Miles for Beginners workshops that points conversion are almost always value destructive. Trading 24 cents for 13.8 cents of value is a non-starter in the case of KrisFlyer miles to GC points, and trading 13.8 cents for 2.5 cents of value in the case of GC points to KrisFlyer miles is a transaction so bad it should be criminal.

With the above math in mind, transferring GC award points to KrisFlyer miles, even with a double miles bonus, is still a horrendous deal. However, transferring KrisFlyer miles to GC points? Now we’re on to something…

Should you trade 12 KrisFlyer miles for 2 GC points?

Recall the situation in Singapore: it’s fairly easy to earn KrisFlyer miles (credit cards, Grab, Chope, Mileslife, gas stations, phone bills, you name it), but really, really difficult to earn hotel points. Consequently, I have a healthy balance of KrisFlyer miles, but never enough hotel points.

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On the surface, trading 12 KrisFlyer miles for 2 GC points already nets me a 15% value gain overall (24 cents for 27.6 cents). But remember our 13.8 cents per GC point is based on redemptions for F&B vouchers. What about hotel stays?

Here’s Shangri-la’s award redemption chart. Redemption rates range from 1,000 points per night to 20,000 points per night for a standard room. For redemptions made by 30 November 2018 and consumed by 31 January 2019, you can enjoy 25% off the points for a standard room, 30% off for a Club Room, and 40% off an Executive room.

What does that mean? In so many words…

HotelRegular Points25% offIn KF Miles
Shangri-La Hotel, Baotou10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Beihai10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Hefei10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Huhhot10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Manzhouli10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Nanchang10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Qinhuangdao10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Qufu10007504500
Hotel Jen Shenyang10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Tangshan10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Wuhan10007504500
Shangri-La Hotel, Yiwu10007504500
Hotel Jen Puteri Harbour, Johor10007504500
Hotel Jen Penang10007504500
Hotel Jen Manila10007504500
Hotel Jen Brisbane200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Changchun200015009000
Traders Fudu Hotel, Changzhou200015009000
Shangri-La Resort, Shangri-La200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Fuzhou200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Guilin200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Harbin200015009000
Songbei Shangri-La, Harbin200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Jinan200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Ningbo200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Shenyang200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Shenzhen200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Suzhou200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Wenzhou200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Yangzhou200015009000
Hotel Jen Hong Kong200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Surabaya200015009000
Traders Hotel, Kuala Lumpur200015009000
Golden Sands Resort, Penang200015009000
Edsa Shangri-La, Manila200015009000
Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel, Tainan200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, Chiang Mai200015009000
Shangri-La Hotel, The Marina, Cairns3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Changzhou3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Chengdu3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Dalian3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Guangzhou3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Haikou3500262515750
Midtown Shangri-La, Hangzhou3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Hangzhou3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Nanjing3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Qingdao3500262515750
Shangri-La's Sanya Resort & Spa, Hainan3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Tianjin3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Xiamen3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Xian3500262515750
Shangri-La's Fijian Resort and Spa, Yanuca, Fiji3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Jakarta3500262515750
Shangri-La's Rasa Ria Resort & Spa, Kota Kinabalu3500262515750
Shangri-La's Tanjung Aru Resort & Spa, Kota Kinabalu3500262515750
Hotel Jen Malé, Maldives3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Ulaanbaatar3500262515750
Shangri-La's Rasa Sentosa Resort & Spa3500262515750
Hotel Jen Orchardgateway Singapore3500262515750
Hotel Jen Tanglin Singapore3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Colombo3500262515750
Shangri-La's Hambantota Golf Resort & Spa, Sri Lanka3500262515750
Traders Hotel, Qaryat Al Beri, Abu Dhabi3500262515750
Shangri-La Hotel, Sydney5000375022500
China World Hotel, Beijing5000375022500
Shangri-La Hotel, Beijing5000375022500
Kerry Hotel, Beijing5000375022500
Hotel Jen Beijing5000375022500
Kerry Hotel Pudong, Shanghai5000375022500
Futian Shangri-La, Shenzhen5000375022500
Kerry Hotel, Hong Kong5000375022500
Shangri-La Hotel, Bengaluru5000375022500
Shangri-La's - Eros Hotel, New Delhi5000375022500
Shangri-La Hotel, Kuala Lumpur5000375022500
Shangri-La's Rasa Sayang Resort & Spa, Penang5000375022500
Sule Shangri-La, Yangon5000375022500
Shangri-La Barr Al Jissah Resort and Spa, Oman5000375022500
Shangri-La's Mactan Resort and Spa, Cebu5000375022500
Makati Shangri-La, Manila5000375022500
Shangri-La at the Fort, Manila5000375022500
Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel, Taipei5000375022500
Shangri-La Hotel, Bangkok5000375022500
Shangri-La Hotel, Toronto6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Vancouver6500487529250
China World Summit Wing, Beijing6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Lhasa6500487529250
Jing An Shangri-La, West Shanghai6500487529250
Pudong Shangri-La, East Shanghai6500487529250
Kowloon Shangri-La, Hong Kong6500487529250
Shangri-La's Le Touessrok Resort & Spa, Mauritius6500487529250
Shangri-La Barr Al Jissah Resort and Spa, Oman6500487529250
Shangri-La's Boracay Resort and Spa6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Doha6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Singapore6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Qaryat Al Beri, Abu Dhabi6500487529250
Shangri-La Hotel, Dubai6500487529250
Island Shangri-La, Hong Kong9500712542750
Shangri-La Hotel, Tokyo9500712542750
Shangri-La Al Husn Resort and Spa9500712542750
Shangri-La Bosphorus, Istanbul9500712542750
Shangri-La Hotel, Paris200001500090000
Shangri-La’s Villingili Resort & Spa, Maldives200001500090000
Shangri-La Hotel, At The Shard, London200001500090000

Looking at the data in this way gives me a bit more perspective. As nice as the Maldives may be, I’d struggle to part with 90,000 KrisFlyer miles for a night at the Shangri-La Villingili Resort & Spa (prepaid rates from US$1.2K) , much less for the Shangri-La in Paris or London.

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Even at the mid-range properties, I’d find it hard to justify spending 15,750 miles on the Hotel Jen in Tanglin or Orchardgateway, which can regularly be booked for S$220-250 on a non-refundable rate.

At the lower end, 750 points per night for properties like Hotel Jen Penang may seem like a steal, until you remember that revenue rates hover around S$100- so trading 4,500 miles for that is a marginal improvement.

When I first read the promotional eDM, the prospect of combining a double points conversion with 25% off redemptions got me really excited. Unfortunately, the data doesn’t seem to support the idea that this presents some amazing hotel redemption opportunity. There may well be some sweet spot in the above table that I’ve yet to identify (and please tell me if there is!), but I’m struggling to see it.

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NAMI at Shangri-La Singapore
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That leaves me with F&B vouchers- NAMI at the Shangri-La is supposed to be pretty good, and if you’re flush with miles you could do far worse than to cash them out at ~2.3 cents each on F&B vouchers. It’s certainly a lot better than KrisPay (keep in mind you will need to convert a minimum of 20,000 miles though).

Conclusion

You certainly should not be converting GC Points into KrisFlyer miles, even with this promotion. Converting KrisFlyer miles into GC Points may yield some interesting value, especially if you’ve got a batch that’s going to expire soon with no travel plans on the horizon. A nice meal out at one of the Shang’s restaurants sure beats your other options for cashing out.

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Only if the minimum is not 20k miles.

I may do it if it is 3k.

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Shangri-La Chang Mai worth more than 1.5K points.

Retail rate more than US$200 pre-tax

Sentosa not bad, too. Retail $400+pre-tax for 15k miles.

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GC pts expiring is 3 years right, say earned on 04.10.18.. expiring 3 calendar year basis.. i.e. .31.12.21? Thanks.

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Shangri la tokyo is good too.

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Good for what? Cash rate is only USD560 so it doesn’t make sense.

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